9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading comprehension quiz

Please read the following statement by Osama Bin Laden from a 1998 fatwa and answer the question that follows.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone.

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it.

The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless. Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there.


Poll
Osama Bin Laden Attacked Us Because:
He hates our freedom
He hates our foreign policy which has killed many innocents

Votes: 9
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Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

How dare you try to open a rational discussion on this topic!

(snark)


by the mollusk on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:40:03 AM EST

Sorry:P (none / 0)


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:42:11 AM EST
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Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

the problem is Americans have bought into this, we are perfect we can do no wrong.

anyone who brings up or talks about the consequences of our actions in the world is attacked as an extremist or part of the "blame america first" crowd or unpatriotic.

Americans no longer see the need to question their government or its leaders.

we Focus on Wright saying "god damn America" and say that is not RIGHT! and scream outrage at the same time our Administration may have committed war crimes that no one wants to talk about.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:46:15 AM EST

Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

Yep. Blind nationalism is strangling our country and even the "enlightened" side of the aisle has fallen prey to it.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:50:12 AM EST
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Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

I'm not sure I totally agree with that.  In my work I have a lot of contact with people from Europe and Asia.  Europeans, in particular, are positively scathing about American foreign policy (as am I) but will admit almost no wrongdoing by their own government.

I attribute this to the stronger national identities of Europeans which have been forged by their histories and real competition between countries.  In the U.S., we just take it as a given that we've f**ked up and we freely admit it - at least among the left-leaning crowd that I belong to.

Part of it may be that the American government is so far to the right that if you do have leftist tendencies, you will view yourself as completely at odds with your government.  But in Europe, they have a more mixed view of their own governments because they at least try out some leftist policies from time to time.

Who knows.


by the mollusk on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:16:44 AM EST
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Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (2.00 / 1)

you need a third choice

OBL only cares about the US military presence in the Mid-East.  He could care less about other places in this world.  He is not a shining crusader standing up for human rights.  Let's get that on the table as well.


by colebiancardi on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:46:21 AM EST

That's part of our foreign policy so it doesn't (none / 0)

need to be separated out. At least you don't think it's because of our freedoms like some others around here apparently do. Though I hope they were kidding.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:49:32 AM EST
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Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

isn't that what we do? we care about the Human rights abuse that Saddam does, but the Saudi Royal family gets a pass?

you think while we are selling Debt to China we are putting any REAL pressure on them to change? why did we fight NOT to call the genocide in Darfur genocide?

OBL only cares about his own interests and what furthers his goals, we do the same thing. we didn't think OBL so so bad in the 80s when we armed the taliban, same with Saddam


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:51:46 AM EST
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Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

Taylor Marsh & No Quarter are running an ad for an anti-Obama book that was written by 9/11 Truther Webster Tarpley, so you may want to add another choice:

"He was paid by the CIA"


by Rumproast on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 09:53:51 AM EST

Re: 9/11!!!!9/11!!!9/11!!!! A short reading compre (none / 0)

Ha. America haters! I don't think I can edit a poll.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 10:12:45 AM EST
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you're obviously a terrorist lover (none / 0)

EVERYONE knows we were attacked because we love freedom fries, liberty lettuce and emancipation eclairs.


by highgrade on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:14:27 AM EST

Re: you're obviously a terrorist lover (none / 0)

don't forget about flat-tax falafals.


by the mollusk on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:18:28 AM EST
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Re: you're obviously a terrorist lover (none / 0)

or the ever-popular "war-of-choice waffles"


by the mollusk on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:19:08 AM EST
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those are the BEST (none / 0)

Have you had mercenary macaroni?


by highgrade on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:21:43 AM EST
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Re: those are the BEST (none / 0)

touche

this could go on all day


by the mollusk on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:35:58 AM EST
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Pretty dishonest poll (none / 0)

I highly doubt that Bin Ladin is all that concerned by "the killing of innocents." His words and actions (9/11 for example) show this not to be the case. Calling Israel a "petty state" clearly shows him to be an anti semite, who hates us because we support Israel.


by Mayor McCheese on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:27:08 AM EST

Re: Pretty dishonest poll (none / 0)

He views one of the financial centers of our nation as a legitimate target. Do you think he hates us for our freedom?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 01:45:44 PM EST
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Re: Pretty dishonest poll (none / 0)

"He views one of the financial centers of our nation as a legitimate target."

And you support his view? Did you stand there in helpless horror watching people leap from that burning inferno to their deaths?

Presenting a speech by OBL as though he is telling the whole story of what he is after is so disingenuous it begs the question - do you believe when other politicians make speeches about their intentions and real positions? Think they don't clean up their views to make them politically palatable? The idea that OBL is fighting for anyone's human rights is offensive. Look at how women and LGBTs fare under Sharia and Jews are threatened with extinction and then tell me about his human rights stands. He would be more of an oppressor than the US government, and when you leave that out of the equation it totally loses me.

When you look at how women are raped as a punishment for being raped, and gays are imprisoned and executed under his belief system- Sharia- it isn't that far of a stretch to say "he hates us because of our freedom."

There are multiple sides to this story, and making OBL out to be a misunderstood, defamed good guy is disgusting to me.


by 07rescue on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 04:08:21 PM EST
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Re: Pretty dishonest poll (none / 0)

Hah. You failed to understand the point of the post. Comedy. You're Don Quixote tilting at windmills.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 04:11:03 PM EST
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Re: Pretty dishonest poll (none / 0)

You miss the point on the global scale. You keep right on laughing, while adults keep right on putting our lives on the line to keep you safe in your giggling.


by 07rescue on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 05:54:40 PM EST
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Re: Pretty dishonest poll (none / 0)

You're not making any sense. Please re-read the post.

How old are you BTW?


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 06:14:02 PM EST
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